I am sitting with my partner of 13 years and she is remembering the arrival of her paternal grandmother to Ellis Island exactly 100 years ago today. She and her sister joined their Rabbi father just before the closing of the US borders to most immigration. It is interesting to look at our histories to see what choices/happenstance that led us to live under the same roof. Your description of Russian pogroms covers part of her story, while mine was partially captured by JD Vance's ill conceived Hillbilly Elegy. It is my contention that equal opportunity to an excellent education levels most of the playing fields.
While I appreciate the grand history and it certainly helps understand why things are said and done by each side, I would really like the media/historians to look at some of the other potential issues that drove some of the barbarity that bubbles up through history. It's pretty clear to me that some of the worldwide violence that began to rise after WWII can be tied to mass lead poisoning of the populace due to expansive use of leaded gasoline. There are other agents that are purposefully used to drive hatred and separate man from his humanity and seemingly one of these agents are man made drugs derived from ephedrine. Reportedly Hamas was using a similar drug in their training methods just like the Nazis and the Japanese. In addition, Meth in this country leads some people to have absolutely zero humanity for other humans. When the media equates Hamas trained fighters to justify killing Palestinians that live in fear of what I suspect are violent religious junkies it reminds me of the stupid decisions made by the US in the aftermath of 911.
History matters, especially the history of the last 120 years, but that history has to be told that includes all the factors that may lead to violent outcomes. I am not sure we are there yet, but your 3 causes are enlightening.
I could wax on about Darrell Cooper, Mike Brown and George Floyd as these figures tell a story but not the one that gets the story "more correct" Thanks again.
I had some killer timing and stumbled upon your work. I had just wrapped up episodes 1-5 of nazi Muslims just a week before the attack on Israel. I guess one point I would like to make is this is war and it sucks but I am really having a hard time finding any sympathies with the Arabs in that neck of the woods. I want to refuse to call them Palestinian because there is no historical record of a Palestinian state or people. Sounds brutal I know but it’s my understanding there just isn’t. There were some tribes of Arabs but I really believe they are an invented people. They are people so don’t get me wrong but they are getting what they wanted in Hamas. Did we run constant body counts on the dead Hitler youths and citizenry? You know the answer to that but what is going on right now blows me away. These are the modern day Nazi! They want every Jew to burn basically, it’s in their charter. And the nonsense that it’s not all of them is ridiculous. Where are all these moderates when the bombings and killings are not happening? I’m sorry these people do don’t want to coexist in the slightest. There will never be a two state solution. That’s pie in the sky.
I will say that I think history is not a useful lens if trying to solve the I/P conflict. It just devolves into "who was here first". Better to analyze the many actors, their interests, and their objectives (in their own words).
Interesting point about the Kishinev Pogrom. My own great-grandparents, Jews, fled Eastern Europe for the USA and South Africa +/- one or two years from 1903. But my family oral history has no recollection of the proximate cause.
I have noticed Trump referenced a couple times now and I would just like to point out that none of these protesters if that’s what we are going to call them voted for him. What we are seeing is a huge democrat voter base.
I am sitting with my partner of 13 years and she is remembering the arrival of her paternal grandmother to Ellis Island exactly 100 years ago today. She and her sister joined their Rabbi father just before the closing of the US borders to most immigration. It is interesting to look at our histories to see what choices/happenstance that led us to live under the same roof. Your description of Russian pogroms covers part of her story, while mine was partially captured by JD Vance's ill conceived Hillbilly Elegy. It is my contention that equal opportunity to an excellent education levels most of the playing fields.
While I appreciate the grand history and it certainly helps understand why things are said and done by each side, I would really like the media/historians to look at some of the other potential issues that drove some of the barbarity that bubbles up through history. It's pretty clear to me that some of the worldwide violence that began to rise after WWII can be tied to mass lead poisoning of the populace due to expansive use of leaded gasoline. There are other agents that are purposefully used to drive hatred and separate man from his humanity and seemingly one of these agents are man made drugs derived from ephedrine. Reportedly Hamas was using a similar drug in their training methods just like the Nazis and the Japanese. In addition, Meth in this country leads some people to have absolutely zero humanity for other humans. When the media equates Hamas trained fighters to justify killing Palestinians that live in fear of what I suspect are violent religious junkies it reminds me of the stupid decisions made by the US in the aftermath of 911.
History matters, especially the history of the last 120 years, but that history has to be told that includes all the factors that may lead to violent outcomes. I am not sure we are there yet, but your 3 causes are enlightening.
I could wax on about Darrell Cooper, Mike Brown and George Floyd as these figures tell a story but not the one that gets the story "more correct" Thanks again.
I had some killer timing and stumbled upon your work. I had just wrapped up episodes 1-5 of nazi Muslims just a week before the attack on Israel. I guess one point I would like to make is this is war and it sucks but I am really having a hard time finding any sympathies with the Arabs in that neck of the woods. I want to refuse to call them Palestinian because there is no historical record of a Palestinian state or people. Sounds brutal I know but it’s my understanding there just isn’t. There were some tribes of Arabs but I really believe they are an invented people. They are people so don’t get me wrong but they are getting what they wanted in Hamas. Did we run constant body counts on the dead Hitler youths and citizenry? You know the answer to that but what is going on right now blows me away. These are the modern day Nazi! They want every Jew to burn basically, it’s in their charter. And the nonsense that it’s not all of them is ridiculous. Where are all these moderates when the bombings and killings are not happening? I’m sorry these people do don’t want to coexist in the slightest. There will never be a two state solution. That’s pie in the sky.
I will say that I think history is not a useful lens if trying to solve the I/P conflict. It just devolves into "who was here first". Better to analyze the many actors, their interests, and their objectives (in their own words).
Interesting point about the Kishinev Pogrom. My own great-grandparents, Jews, fled Eastern Europe for the USA and South Africa +/- one or two years from 1903. But my family oral history has no recollection of the proximate cause.
I have noticed Trump referenced a couple times now and I would just like to point out that none of these protesters if that’s what we are going to call them voted for him. What we are seeing is a huge democrat voter base.